Under floor Insulation

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wreckless
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remember this
https://www.mobilehomerepair.com/phpbb/v ... f=6&t=8514

well i have finally started work on my mobile home in the uk.
stage 1 was to paint the chassis with hammerite, stage 2 coat the floor joists with good quality wood preserver and dryrot protection, and finally i chose Celotex 50mm or 2" and used a high modular silicon mastic to seal the insulation in and fill the gaps with expanding foam.

When i first started i noticed one end had no jacks under the chassis so i purchased 24 and fitted them under the chassis then had to start leveling,
i hope i have done this correct, firstly i bought a water level consisting of 2 tubes with gradients in mm on and 30 ft of clear 3/8 pipe. I then converted a 2ft by 1ft plastic container fitting the pipe to one end and a water level to the other end of the pipe.
i then went underneath and sprayed a 3" square on the cross members by every jack point, when i say cross members i mean the steel U section running across the narrow profile of the home these are what the wooden floor joists are fixed to. I then marked a Datum line on all of the squares i had painted.
this is a picture of the area.
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next i put the container at the same height as these steel u section but outside on some bricks,
i filled the container with water and also added some red food colorant to tint the water making reading easier.
the scale end had a stop on it that turned out to be really useful when crawling about not wanting to spill any water.
i let the pipe and scale fill from the container then fixed it with an elastic band to the marked u section, lining up the 20mm mark with the datum mark on the u section.
removing the cap from the scale and letting the level settle, i then took out some water from the container until the water in the scale settled at 70mm "mid range of the scale".
i then moved the scale to every point i had marked on the chassis, lining the 20mm mark with the datum at every point, then taking down the reading where the water level settled.
i found the end that had no jacks was between 15 to 25mm to low.
i then went through the lot again and jacked up where it was low and let down where it was high.
i managed to get it to within 3mm 1/8" over every jack.
This is the first time i have tried this so i hope i did it correct please let me know if not

next i fitted the insulation 50mm or 2" Celotex pir foam sheets.
i cut these to size and in 4ft lengths as i found this to be easier to slide up above the u section runs" they came in 8 x 4ft sheets, these went against the floor of the home, i used some little triangle shaped wooden wedges to hold the foam in place.
once it was all cut and in place i rand down the edges with high modular silicone mastic and expanding foam for any large gaps.
below are some pictures of the insulation in place this is a fiddly job but i could feel the difference straight away when walking on the kitchen lino floor. :D
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Greg
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It sounds to me like you did a great job leveling, Any time you can get within 1/4" it will be fine.

Time will tell on the insulation, I'm not sure what you have for cold weather where you are.

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If after a final re-check, you were within 1/8th inch, you did a great job! 2" of std density foam is about R8, so that sounds like it might work. That is more insulation than I see on a lot of older homes. How are you protecting the water lines?
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wreckless
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How are you protecting the water lines?
If you mean the pipe work it is set along a center channel that is boxed in it did have old rockwool in the channel but i have removed and put the grey round foam tubes on the pipe you can see this on the last picture if you look close. i have done this for central heating pipes as well as hot and cold water and mains in.
the temperature where i live in the uk normally does not drop below -5 on a bad day
i was thinking of putting back new rockwool as well :!:
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It all sounds good to me. I am real interested in how the insulation performs for you. Please be sure to keep us updated, OK?
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wreckless
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i have lino on the kitchen floor and when you get up in the mornings it is no longer cold on the feet.
the last 2 days in the uk have been fairly sunny and this old home becomes a bake house all windows open.
but soon i start on the outside i plan to remove all the outside 6mm wood sheeting, then fit extra 2x2 framing making it 4" deep wall. i will use 3 1/2" A4 stainless screws. I was worried about the chassis and the overhang but have had 5 qoutes from reputable companies and when i raised the matter they said it would be fine.
i was planning on using tanalized treated for the frame work.
i will then remove the old insulation and fit 75mm thick celotex ga4075 and use a foam gun to fix it to the wood framing. This will go against the inside wall leaving a 25mm gap between the insulation and the outer wall. i plan to then put up dupont house wrap membrane to the outside of the beams and then use 12mm far eastern Malaysian hardwood ply primered both sides with a breathable primer. then top coat it with a breathable texture coat around 3 to 4mm thick.
if anyone has any information on wall venting i would be greatfull there seems to be 7 in the living room and 1 in every other room at present around 200mm wide.
the 6 in the living room was due to it having a back boiler and gas fire that have now gone, so i may drop that to 2 in the living room.
once done i hope it will be cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter
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