New set up questions. Pipes, skirting.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:05 am
I moved a double-wide. Setting it up now on a NEW lot. Having to install everything.
Putting this on concrete stringers. Hopefully this is a permanent installation.
Needs new shingles on roof and new siding.
I am trying to figure out the right way to do water and sewer pipes and skirting.
I have seen a number of different ways, some seem better than others.
What happens with pipes if you Re-Level, Raise or Lower?
I hope I shouldn't have to re-level, just thinking ahead and thinking about others trailers.
Water pipe:
Heat tape? How far underground? Insulated?
What if I need to replace heat tape underground?
Shut off valve down there? I got a ball valve but didn't put it in yet.
I have seen some that have a short yard hydrant buried deep that would shut off water underground if the trailer was going to be vacant for a while.
I could just shut off the well pump.
A yard hydrant seems like a nice idea but I am not coming up with what kind of permanent hose to attach from the hydrant to the trailer.
Sewer pipe:
Should I have a ~5 foot section horizontal before it goes into the ground?
It just seems that most that I have seen had some pipe laying on the ground before it goes down.
Mine is real close and I don't have to have hardly any horizontal pipe.
I am just wondering if it is necessary.
Where the sewer pipe goes into the ground under the trailer, I am going to have ~3 feet of drop into the ground to get down to the level of where the pipe is then sloped the rest of the way to the drainfield.
For this 3 foot drop, would it be best to drop straight down or go down at ~45 degree angle?
Skirting:
I don't have this part figured out yet.
What I took off was plywood cut into 2' widths, 8 feet long.
Supported every 4 feet with a 2x4 going up.
No insulation.
What should I do?
Insulated or not? If yes, SprayFoam or rigid? Definitely NOT fiberglass.
What to use for skirting? Vinyl siding? T-111? Metal delta rib?
Since I need to do new siding should I make it the same as skirting and not have a transition? Should I just run siding clear down to the ground?
Options I have been considering to use for skirting support:
1) Some kind of timbers on the ground for skirting to hit against.
2) Timbers on the ground for a skirting wall to sit on.
3) Just build a 2x6 wall with a treated bottom plate as a skirting wall.
4) This is the one that I am leaning most toward: Pour a 6x6 concrete rim for a skirting wall to sit on. This would give a concrete section for the dirt to be against and not have the wall rotting out. I have had people say that this won't work because frost will heave on it. I don't plan to dig down 3 feet to get below frost line. I don't see what is the difference between frost heaving on a 6x6 line of concrete or a wooden 6x6.
Anybody have suggestions, warnings, encouragement, discussion? Thanks.
Putting this on concrete stringers. Hopefully this is a permanent installation.
Needs new shingles on roof and new siding.
I am trying to figure out the right way to do water and sewer pipes and skirting.
I have seen a number of different ways, some seem better than others.
What happens with pipes if you Re-Level, Raise or Lower?
I hope I shouldn't have to re-level, just thinking ahead and thinking about others trailers.
Water pipe:
Heat tape? How far underground? Insulated?
What if I need to replace heat tape underground?
Shut off valve down there? I got a ball valve but didn't put it in yet.
I have seen some that have a short yard hydrant buried deep that would shut off water underground if the trailer was going to be vacant for a while.
I could just shut off the well pump.
A yard hydrant seems like a nice idea but I am not coming up with what kind of permanent hose to attach from the hydrant to the trailer.
Sewer pipe:
Should I have a ~5 foot section horizontal before it goes into the ground?
It just seems that most that I have seen had some pipe laying on the ground before it goes down.
Mine is real close and I don't have to have hardly any horizontal pipe.
I am just wondering if it is necessary.
Where the sewer pipe goes into the ground under the trailer, I am going to have ~3 feet of drop into the ground to get down to the level of where the pipe is then sloped the rest of the way to the drainfield.
For this 3 foot drop, would it be best to drop straight down or go down at ~45 degree angle?
Skirting:
I don't have this part figured out yet.
What I took off was plywood cut into 2' widths, 8 feet long.
Supported every 4 feet with a 2x4 going up.
No insulation.
What should I do?
Insulated or not? If yes, SprayFoam or rigid? Definitely NOT fiberglass.
What to use for skirting? Vinyl siding? T-111? Metal delta rib?
Since I need to do new siding should I make it the same as skirting and not have a transition? Should I just run siding clear down to the ground?
Options I have been considering to use for skirting support:
1) Some kind of timbers on the ground for skirting to hit against.
2) Timbers on the ground for a skirting wall to sit on.
3) Just build a 2x6 wall with a treated bottom plate as a skirting wall.
4) This is the one that I am leaning most toward: Pour a 6x6 concrete rim for a skirting wall to sit on. This would give a concrete section for the dirt to be against and not have the wall rotting out. I have had people say that this won't work because frost will heave on it. I don't plan to dig down 3 feet to get below frost line. I don't see what is the difference between frost heaving on a 6x6 line of concrete or a wooden 6x6.
Anybody have suggestions, warnings, encouragement, discussion? Thanks.